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Agree. A lot of easily verifiable truth claims would be instantly cataloged to be liberal thinking. Conservatism anti-science political opinions will always collide with models that try to answer to their best of their knowledge.

Note: I’m a centrist and strongly disagree with a lot of the ideology in the left and the right.


If you want to be a good denialist you’ll need better arguments my friend.

What am I denying, exactly? This thread and the article pertain to El Nino. Is someone denying that El Nino exists?

Let me guess, you think solar panels are chinese spying machines.

Why bother posting crap like this?

Yeah like earthquakes, the top registered earthquake happened 66 years ago.

The fact that you see record breaking more often than log of time implies a drift in one direction.


Hey, we started another war and are funding the most destabilizing force in the world but look at this theoretical war …

Sending to LEO costs around $2,700 usd and 9kWh of fuel per kilogram.

If you manage to send a data center with high end processing units, large array of solar panels, even larger liquid cooling and tick shielding against solar rays you’d have spent probably 100x to 1000x the cost of an equivalent earth data center even without considering hardware deprecation.

You’re better off sinking your data center deep in the sea and even that is probably not happening at large scales.


I tried to find what the worst option is other than putting them in space and you can do a lot! Trucking diesel to the middle of the Sahara is a decent option in comparison to space.

Don't forget trucking in the cooling water.


I mean if we're replying with videos at this point, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qpdUNMt2yg

One is actually building while the other is making Youtube videos. Also the video literally answers the economic question.

I'm happy with my bet


As a friendly advice, try critical thinking for a while. It will help you avoid scams in your real life.

Some people have incentives to lie and it’s important to be able to think for oneself and distinguish among them.


Couldn’t you say the same argument about VC funded startups? They lose money following a strategic goal.

The main difference here is if a startup goes underwater all the tech is usually lost. The Chinese weights are not going anywhere if the labs fail.


The VC money is only contingent on the strategy eventually bearing fruit. I do imagine going open source -> closed source could work for some model companies who get enterprise/ecosystem buy-in but the probability of ROI is lower.

I think open source will remain competitive among smaller players and adjacent industries wanting to avoid lock-in with the majors. OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, etc are all out to win - they require profit extraction from their R&D. China seems to have, over the near term, accepted that they can not (or at least have not) pull ahead and so open source collaboration speeds the collective development, keeps them close to the frontier, and ensures their industry has access to learn from and implement. The USA playing export controls games with Fable made that aspect very stark.

But I agree that's the catch - it doesn't make sense to throw money at open source models in hopes of direct return, so you need a nation or conglomerate to do it so as to control the technology they rely on.


This is true for any company following an open source strategy. You'll have the weights but you'll need to run inference, figure out your system prompt, sampling, quantization, etc etc. Loads of tuning.

elasticsearch the first example that comes to mind. you can run it yourself but elastic gives you so many lessons learned and tunes ootb that it sings with relatively little effort, though still reqiures some.

about a million dbs i could make the same comparison for


WhatsApp has this “circles” features implemented so well people don’t even think about it.


Even in the hypothetical that datacenters would double Ireland’s GDP what real positive impact would it have if they pay zero taxes?


They do pay tax, 12.5%. Plus employment during construction and maintenance. There's also ancillary investment in national infrastructure such as Google's CO2 battery


The rest of Europe sued Ireland to get them to stop being a tax haven. Ireland basically refuses to do so. If they did, most of their economy evaporates overnight (and the US government gets a lot more tax revenue). Ireland's economy is basically 2 tax shelters in a trench coat.


Did you mean hypothesis?


I meant hypothetical, thanks for pointing it out.


If the underlying code ends up being a completely unreadable blob that no human will ever read why not directly do a port to assembly instead of rust?


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